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radio network any opinions or comments

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presenters or networks opinions you're

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moving into a land of both shadow and

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substance of things and ideas

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it hasn't changed in millions of years

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but here

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here we have a clue to an answer

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good day to you this is sir patrick

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moore and you're listening to the

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paranormal uk radio network the uk's

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biggest paranormal radio network and

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this is paranormal dimensions with david

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hello and welcome to the show

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thank you for the introductions to

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patrick hope everyone's doing well out

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there in this troubled world this week's

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guest is going to be maria wheatley i'll

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say more about that shortly as always if

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you'd like to get in touch with me at

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any time my email address is david young

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among the messages i've received i've

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had a couple more requests

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to play my friend preston williams is

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coming to chief seattle tracker game

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i've played it a few times before it was

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quite a few shows ago now that i played

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it last time so um

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as today is another show which is going

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to be very much about the land and

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spiritualism i think it's quite an

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appropriate track to play again and i'm

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sure you'll like it if you haven't heard

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before if you've heard it before i'm

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sure you'll like to hear it again

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the great chief in washington sends word

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that he wishes to buy our land

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the great chief also sends us words of

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friendship and good will

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this is kind of him since we know he has

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little need of our friendship in return

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but we will consider your offer

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for we know that if we do not sell the

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white men may come with guns and take

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how can you buy or sell the sky

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the warmth of the land

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the idea is strange to us

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if we do not own the freshness of the

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air and the sparkle of the water

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every part of this earth is sacred to my

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every shining pine needle

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every clearing and every humming insect

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the sap which courses through the trees

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carries the memories of the red man

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sends word that he wishes to buy our

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whatever befalls the earth befalls the

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sons of the earth

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man did not weave the web of life

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whatever he does to the web he does to

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but we will consider your offer to go to

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our children have seen their fathers

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our warriors have felt shame

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idleness and contaminate their bodies

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it matters little where we spend the

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the graves of the people once as

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tribes are made of men nothing more

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how god is the same god

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you may think now that you own him as

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you wish to own our land but you cannot

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this earth is crushes too long to harm

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the earth is to keep contempt on its

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fired by the strength of the god who

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that destiny is a mystery to us for we

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do not understand when the buffalo were

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the end of living in the beginning of

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reservation you have promised

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for they love this earth as the newborn

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yeah that's preston williams thank you

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maria is an author and tutor

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and she's been teaching past life

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dowser who was considered a world

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he told maria to death over 20 years ago

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and felt inspired to write about the

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mystical stones of avery and that's

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wheelchair at uk here maria also gives

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regular dowsing tours and workshops of

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sacred sites such as avery stonehenge

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glastonbury huffington ireland and

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scotland maria runs professional dowsing

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courses to certified level practical

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weekend courses one day workshops home

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study on skype lessons are available

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maria runs the avery school of esoteric

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studies which is affiliated with the

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association of british correspondents

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colleges okay right i'd like to bring on

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and introduce maria wheatley hello maria

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welcome to the show hi david well thanks

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for having me i'm looking forward to it

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oh so am i it's actually great to have

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you on the show i've been looking

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forward to this one um i've i've known

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about your name for years in actual

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facts and it's the first opportunity

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i've had to really talk to you

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you'd like to call it that i don't know

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how deep i followed it but i know you're

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a very interesting person um concerning

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uh what ancient rituals and crop circles

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and everything else to do with um lay

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lines and everything like that i mean

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what got you into that uh what made you

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yeah that's that's a really good

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question question actually david and

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really it was because i've always lived

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different countries you know with my

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a kid it was called the children of the

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stones and it was all about eve bree

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the 70s watching that and of course then

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of metaphysical side of avery and the

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read on but it was combined in the both

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into mysteries what is a ley line what

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is the uh earth doing and what were the

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ancients up to and he was asking all

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wanted uh answers to these questions and

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you know answered a few questions but

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more have arisen

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well i really don't know what i know

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what i understand what the lines are

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that there are connections throughout

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the country but do we really know what

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lay lines are you know if it's um

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kind of generic word really because you

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can get one type of ley line and this

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was really explored many years ago

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longren and he kept classified them

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after a lot of study and there was a

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topographical lay which is just a line

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has no energy linking sight after sight

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in a straight line and it was alfred

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the phrase late and we discovered the

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lays and uh other people looked into

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them so you can have that type of lay

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just a straight line with ancient sites

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cited upon it then there's another type

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of lathe that has energy that douses can

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pick up on and we've tried uh well with

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rodney hale we've tried to kind of get

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the hertz frequency of some lays on the

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earth currents we were quite successful

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with that's about 25 uh hertz and you

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celestial event you know be that the

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beltane sunrise may the first like the

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famous saint michael lay that john

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michelle wrote about the 1960s

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and then you get a lay system and that's

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where you have a ley line that has

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energy flowing through it and two earth

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currents entwine it like the caduceus

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symbol or stranded dna

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so they they're really powerful the lay

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systems and they they were discovered in

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the 1980s and and and they've kind of

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been quite well documented now so that

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kind of lay lines in a in a nutshell

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they can be different things but the

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most powerful is a lay system with two

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entwined in earth currents

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hmm see that's what i mean

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it's very hard for me to i mean when

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when these lay lines were put down they

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feel like you know like things were

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joined together by the ancients did they

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actually they must have known what they

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were doing

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exactly they were excellent surveyors i

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mean that's the first thing that we need

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to think about david because you know

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when you get the the famous saint

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michael lay it goes from carnival in

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cornwall to hopton on the norfolk coast

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and it goes through uh glastonbury and

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has its center abrahams but i mean

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you've got hill ranges in the way how

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can you engineer that straight line

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going across 300 miles across the you

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know english country that's exactly

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right when you look at a map and it's a

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flat piece of paper and what you're

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saying exactly is exactly right when

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you've got to go over hills and

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sometimes even small mountains haven't

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they in some cases

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absolutely so it's easy to kind of draw

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a lay on a piece of paper like you were

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saying it's a 2d flat surface but in

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reality

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okay i could find i could easily find

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delay on an atlas or on a map okay

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put me in the countryside and say okay

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now maria you have to give give that

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line and align it to a celestial event

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that's that's topographical engineering

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and that's where you know i think the

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ancients were master geomancers and

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astronomers because a lot of the lays

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are orientated to a lunar or solar

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events

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exactly

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i understand you've just done a show

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also we've got guy tv which i saw on

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facebook today that you posted um

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yeah i guess you were talking about all

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this type of thing there were you

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yeah and when talking about the sort of

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you know megaliths that give off energy

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and some of the sites alignments and

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some global lines that they were talking

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about

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so i mean yes it's i think really the

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the general public has a real uh first

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for ancient knowledge and ancient

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civilizations

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you know i mean again it's looking back

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to how did they move the stones how did

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they put the stones up why did they do

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that the quest these questions are

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simple but they've never really been

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fully addressed by the archaeological

353
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community because the archaeologists

354
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would tell us oh it's all about death it

355
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could be the king's chamber in the

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pyramids it could be stonehenge it could

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be anywhere

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and it's all about death rituals and

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it's all the same date 2500 bc

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and that that it's a kind of sweeping

361
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statement and i think there's far far

362
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more going on i think they were tapping

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into

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the uh earth energy system a natural

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system

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and you you have people like you know in

367
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the past nicole tesla he was looking

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into free energy and by using the earth

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you know not having any wires and that's

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been widely uh documented so i think the

371
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ancients could tap into some kind of

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resources in the earth uh earth energy

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that we're kind of just beginning to

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re-understand and re-remember

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now we're talking about the ancients

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here now would you are you talking about

377
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aliens ancient aliens at all

378
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i'm i think you know

379
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whether man got seeded many years ago by

380
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aliens that is a probability i don't

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dismiss anything

382
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but for me

383
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the ancients are the ancient british

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people

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whose dna has been studied the neolithic

386
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they built the long bowers and the

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bronze age people that built the stone

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circles and i think that they were

389
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an ancient long-lost civilization

390
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but that's not to say that

391
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is something could have occurred you

392
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know i i think that could be a strong

393
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possibility

394
00:17:43,110 --> 00:17:40,400
yeah um i mean i i fully believe that

395
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there were like ufos way back and i do

396
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believe in the asian alien theory

397
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they must have had some sort of

398
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technology that um

399
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guided them into these straight lines

400
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yes that's the way it's anyway i can

401
00:17:56,150 --> 00:17:54,480
think of it but um

402
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what are your thoughts on that really

403
00:18:01,350 --> 00:17:58,320
well again i think there's a strong

404
00:18:04,390 --> 00:18:01,360
possibility that my mind was a seed and

405
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many many many many millennia ago

406
00:18:09,190 --> 00:18:06,360
but i also think there's been lost

407
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civilizations you know like atlantis

408
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like new life and you know when when

409
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there was that kind of big event twelve

410
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thousand years ago when the you know the

411
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ice caps were melted the sea levels rose

412
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the younger dry ass as it's called by by

413
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many i think there was lots of

414
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civilizations lost so i don't think it

415
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was just atlantis and and then then i

416
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think their new kind of culture came

417
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about to build uh monuments so i think

418
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we have a long long long history that

419
00:18:44,470 --> 00:18:42,799
hasn't been explored by academics no i

420
00:18:46,950 --> 00:18:44,480
mean i can remember being obviously

421
00:18:48,870 --> 00:18:46,960
being a school but i was never they've

422
00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:48,880
never mentioned anything about ley lines

423
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or the power of the earth or anything

424
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like that

425
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um obviously

426
00:18:56,710 --> 00:18:54,320
they they taught you about some

427
00:18:59,430 --> 00:18:56,720
stonehenge and things and that they were

428
00:19:01,990 --> 00:18:59,440
lifted with ropes and sticks and stones

429
00:19:03,990 --> 00:19:02,000
and things you know but i find that kind

430
00:19:05,990 --> 00:19:04,000
of hard to believe um

431
00:19:08,830 --> 00:19:06,000
what are your thoughts on that

432
00:19:12,549 --> 00:19:08,840
well we when we have a look to how

433
00:19:15,750 --> 00:19:12,559
professor richard atkinson tried to move

434
00:19:17,830 --> 00:19:15,760
as a small blue stone not not a heavy

435
00:19:20,150 --> 00:19:17,840
star since then one of the smaller blue

436
00:19:22,230 --> 00:19:20,160
stones probably weighing about four tons

437
00:19:24,230 --> 00:19:22,240
between four and five tons whereas you

438
00:19:27,190 --> 00:19:24,240
know the greater trial-athon in total of

439
00:19:29,830 --> 00:19:27,200
those three stones is 95 tons and they

440
00:19:32,549 --> 00:19:29,840
put the ropes around it and they put the

441
00:19:34,710 --> 00:19:32,559
rollers underneath and he chose very

442
00:19:36,710 --> 00:19:34,720
public school boys it was all very nice

443
00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:36,720
it was all very nicely done

444
00:19:41,350 --> 00:19:39,760
and uh they couldn't move it that far

445
00:19:43,270 --> 00:19:41,360
yeah so i mean

446
00:19:46,390 --> 00:19:43,280
when you look to other places as well

447
00:19:48,549 --> 00:19:46,400
david you can really rule out uh ruling

448
00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:48,559
and moving it on rollers rather because

449
00:19:54,150 --> 00:19:51,600
kalanice doesn't have any trees

450
00:19:56,390 --> 00:19:54,160
and that's got large stone circles so

451
00:19:59,669 --> 00:19:56,400
you know i think you can literally rule

452
00:20:01,990 --> 00:19:59,679
some things out and and say how did they

453
00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:02,000
move the stones and it probably wasn't

454
00:20:07,350 --> 00:20:04,480
by ropes and it probably wasn't by

455
00:20:10,630 --> 00:20:07,360
rollins yeah because i find that same

456
00:20:12,549 --> 00:20:10,640
problem with the the pyramids um because

457
00:20:14,470 --> 00:20:12,559
obviously the size of those pyramids and

458
00:20:17,029 --> 00:20:14,480
the size of the stones building the

459
00:20:18,950 --> 00:20:17,039
pyramids um and of course when you're

460
00:20:20,950 --> 00:20:18,960
trying to pull those stones up the side

461
00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:20,960
of a pyramid they get

462
00:20:24,470 --> 00:20:22,960
heavier physically because of the

463
00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:24,480
because of the height and physics and

464
00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:26,320
everything combined into it

465
00:20:31,350 --> 00:20:28,799
so i can't see how they did it and also

466
00:20:32,149 --> 00:20:31,360
the design of the pyramids with the with

467
00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:32,159
the

468
00:20:36,950 --> 00:20:35,440
passageways and everything um i i can

469
00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:36,960
only see that they must have had some

470
00:20:41,190 --> 00:20:39,120
sort of alien intelligence or ancient

471
00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:41,200
intelligence like you say i that's

472
00:20:44,549 --> 00:20:42,480
that's the only way i can look at it

473
00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:44,559
myself i just cannot see that it was

474
00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:46,720
done by ropes and bullies especially in

475
00:20:51,110 --> 00:20:49,120
that sandy area and and also they had no

476
00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:51,120
trees

477
00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:53,440
yeah it's it's you know it is a

478
00:20:57,430 --> 00:20:56,400
a marvel and especially i've been into

479
00:21:00,549 --> 00:20:57,440
the

480
00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:00,559
great pyramid a few times now

481
00:21:07,029 --> 00:21:04,559
and the subterranean chamber is about a

482
00:21:11,110 --> 00:21:07,039
thousand feet beneath the pyramid

483
00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:11,120
uh positioned and aligned and you know

484
00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:13,840
which start we know it aligns to certain

485
00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:15,520
particular stars

486
00:21:21,029 --> 00:21:18,000
and the the whole complex aligns to the

487
00:21:23,029 --> 00:21:21,039
ryanair belt and orion's about according

488
00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:23,039
to robert braval and graham hancock's

489
00:21:28,390 --> 00:21:25,600
research so i mean again it's not just

490
00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:28,400
one discipline that was involved it was

491
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several

492
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very highly

493
00:21:35,590 --> 00:21:33,919
skilled disciplines to make one monument

494
00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:35,600
whether that was the pyramids or whether

495
00:21:38,230 --> 00:21:37,440
that was stonehenge

496
00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:38,240
hmm

497
00:21:41,990 --> 00:21:40,080
i mean i have heard a theory of

498
00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:42,000
levitation i don't know what your views

499
00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:44,400
on that

500
00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:46,640
well when we've measured the

501
00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:48,960
hurt frequency of particular earth

502
00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:51,280
currents which is called a female earth

503
00:21:56,870 --> 00:21:54,000
current coined mary by hamish mill and

504
00:21:59,350 --> 00:21:56,880
paul boardhurst in the 1980s

505
00:22:01,990 --> 00:21:59,360
which entwines with the michael earth

506
00:22:04,149 --> 00:22:02,000
current the st michael leyline the lay

507
00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:04,159
system i was talking about earlier when

508
00:22:09,909 --> 00:22:06,559
we managed measured that it came out at

509
00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:09,919
25 hertz was quite a strong signal

510
00:22:14,630 --> 00:22:11,760
coming out of the ground and we put in

511
00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:14,640
deep copper probes to get that you

512
00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:16,720
couldn't do that today a world heritage

513
00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:18,960
site we did that

514
00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:22,000
you get slang out but when it was back

515
00:22:26,310 --> 00:22:23,520
in the day that we did that but

516
00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:26,320
nonetheless it was it was good research

517
00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:28,320
and i remember being on a radio show

518
00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:30,799
with dr sam that looks into the bosnian

519
00:22:35,909 --> 00:22:35,039
pyramids and he said 25 kilohertz was

520
00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:35,919
the

521
00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:38,640
uh hertz frequency of levitation and i

522
00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:40,240
would thought i wonder if the ancients

523
00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:41,840
could have manipulated the earth

524
00:22:47,510 --> 00:22:44,400
currents to a kilohertz rather than a

525
00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:47,520
hertz frequency and use that to help

526
00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:49,919
lift the stones because wherever you get

527
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:53,280
ancient sites you get earth currents and

528
00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:54,720
if these earth currents have a

529
00:23:00,070 --> 00:22:57,440
predominant signal of 25 hertz that was

530
00:23:02,310 --> 00:23:00,080
potentially manipulated then you do have

531
00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:02,320
levitation or the possibility to

532
00:23:05,669 --> 00:23:04,080
levitate stones and i think that's

533
00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:05,679
plausible

534
00:23:08,950 --> 00:23:07,360
yeah i do too

535
00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:08,960
another thing that interests me is you

536
00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:10,880
you do a lot of regression as well don't

537
00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:12,400
you

538
00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:15,440
yes yes i do i do uh past life

539
00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:17,600
regression and i've done that since

540
00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:20,880
about 1996.

541
00:23:25,590 --> 00:23:22,720
so i've got some you know good

542
00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:25,600
experience uh in that and it's a really

543
00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:28,559
good spiritual tool past life regression

544
00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:30,880
because it's not just about you know

545
00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:32,960
finding out about a life that you lived

546
00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:35,520
before this one but it can be quite

547
00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:38,320
healing as well you can tap into your

548
00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:41,600
soul for healing and tap into your soul

549
00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:42,480
to

550
00:23:47,350 --> 00:23:44,720
answer some questions you know why did i

551
00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:47,360
meet x why did this happen to me and

552
00:23:52,549 --> 00:23:49,279
when you're in a kind of really relaxed

553
00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:52,559
state and you're in a regress state then

554
00:23:57,430 --> 00:23:55,200
the answers to these questions can come

555
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:57,440
from the soul so it's kind of more than

556
00:24:02,710 --> 00:24:00,240
a regression and and also uh dolores

557
00:24:04,870 --> 00:24:02,720
cannon i i was her guide for some time

558
00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:04,880
she's quite as she was the late dolores

559
00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:05,840
cannon

560
00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:08,240
are very famous in america a lovely

561
00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:09,600
lovely lady

562
00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:11,919
and she also used to do past life

563
00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:14,480
aggression and quantum healing as she

564
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:16,400
called it qhht

565
00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:19,679
but also forward life progression so

566
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:21,840
after a past life aggression you can

567
00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:24,640
choose one two three one three five

568
00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:27,440
years ahead uh to try and figure out

569
00:24:32,549 --> 00:24:29,600
what it is you want where you want to be

570
00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:32,559
in that time and tried to manifest that

571
00:24:37,350 --> 00:24:35,120
as well that was one of her techniques

572
00:24:39,029 --> 00:24:37,360
and a few of my clients have found that

573
00:24:40,549 --> 00:24:39,039
quite beneficial

574
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:40,559
i do have a couple of her books on my

575
00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:41,760
shelf actually

576
00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:43,440
so

577
00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:45,600
they're great and she was a very good

578
00:24:49,269 --> 00:24:47,200
author and

579
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:49,279
and like i said she was also a very

580
00:24:54,789 --> 00:24:52,640
lovely lady a very nice person yeah and

581
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:54,799
one i've got uh the search for hidden

582
00:24:58,870 --> 00:24:56,240
sacred knowledge

583
00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:58,880
and between death and life

584
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:01,360
the conversation with spirit

585
00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:03,840
yes so what would have been your most

586
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:05,600
interesting case you have from

587
00:25:10,549 --> 00:25:07,679
experienced with uh

588
00:25:13,029 --> 00:25:10,559
past life experiences

589
00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:13,039
well those that most of them do have

590
00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:16,480
some kind of interesting story to tell

591
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:18,799
but the ones that intrigue me the most i

592
00:25:22,950 --> 00:25:20,320
suppose are the ones that deal with

593
00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:22,960
ancient sites because that's another

594
00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:25,760
mine and if you combine them both then

595
00:25:32,149 --> 00:25:29,600
it's very interesting and recently i had

596
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:32,159
a case of from

597
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:33,840
a chap in america obviously i'm not

598
00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:36,400
going to name names

599
00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:38,799
it's confidential you understand that

600
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:41,039
but anyway really nice chap

601
00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:43,200
lives that lives in america

602
00:25:48,870 --> 00:25:46,240
has been to england twice but not to

603
00:25:50,789 --> 00:25:48,880
this part of the country so yes he has

604
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:50,799
been into england and yes he has been

605
00:25:55,830 --> 00:25:53,360
around spencer's site but in

606
00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:55,840
this kind of regress state he was

607
00:26:01,909 --> 00:25:59,360
describing a very very tall stone and it

608
00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:01,919
wasn't around stonehenge well i know the

609
00:26:05,190 --> 00:26:03,919
megaliths of this land you know

610
00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:05,200
predominantly

611
00:26:09,909 --> 00:26:07,360
at i thought well the tallest uh

612
00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:09,919
standing stone is the redstone monolith

613
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:12,640
in yorkshire that's the tallest it

614
00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:15,840
outstands even the great uh childhood of

615
00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:17,279
stonehenge

616
00:26:22,390 --> 00:26:20,240
and he was describing the area and how

617
00:26:24,789 --> 00:26:22,400
it become christianized i thought yep

618
00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:24,799
that's the churchyard you know so i kind

619
00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:27,360
of know where where he is and he's

620
00:26:31,269 --> 00:26:29,520
always suffered from headaches and he

621
00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:31,279
had a bit of a bad

622
00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:34,320
a challenging relationship with his

623
00:26:39,190 --> 00:26:36,640
father in this lifetime

624
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:39,200
and the past life regression led to him

625
00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:42,000
um having a long skull and i discovered

626
00:26:48,070 --> 00:26:45,360
the long-skulled people of uh stonehenge

627
00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:48,080
and what he had was a long skull and

628
00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:49,760
it's been kind of

629
00:26:55,029 --> 00:26:52,240
um causing him a few problems because

630
00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:55,039
he'd been beaten and when we did some

631
00:26:58,870 --> 00:26:57,520
healing in in the healing room which we

632
00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:58,880
kind of set up in the in the

633
00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:01,200
consultation and during the process of

634
00:27:05,909 --> 00:27:04,000
regression uh he felt his skull being

635
00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:05,919
really long and then he felt all of the

636
00:27:10,950 --> 00:27:08,320
headaches going and hasn't suffered from

637
00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:10,960
headaches since well

638
00:27:17,110 --> 00:27:14,000
so i i felt that was really a very good

639
00:27:18,070 --> 00:27:17,120
regression because it really did help

640
00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:18,080
him

641
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:20,480
hmm i went for a regression session once

642
00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:23,520
and i found i couldn't be hypnotized

643
00:27:27,990 --> 00:27:26,480
um if that's the right term um i found i

644
00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:28,000
could only go a certain way and i was

645
00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:30,000
sort of pulling myself back

646
00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:31,760
um yeah do you find that people get

647
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:34,880
hypnotized easily or

648
00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:38,159
so some people very easily some people

649
00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:40,799
you know probably like yourself and me i

650
00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:43,520
mean i'm not the best to be hypnotized

651
00:27:48,389 --> 00:27:45,440
either actually

652
00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:48,399
i think it really does depends you know

653
00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:51,520
on what the personality is like so

654
00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:54,399
uh yes some people i find really easy

655
00:28:00,870 --> 00:27:57,039
and others i do find you know more

656
00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:00,880
challenging to to start even to relax

657
00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:03,200
you know to have that trust as well and

658
00:28:07,510 --> 00:28:04,960
sometimes i think it's about a trust

659
00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:07,520
thing between the actual therapist

660
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:10,080
and the the client

661
00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:12,000
i think if there's a really good bond

662
00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:14,159
between the two

663
00:28:18,549 --> 00:28:16,640
and there's a kind of trust sense of

664
00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:18,559
security

665
00:28:22,789 --> 00:28:20,159
then i i think it does make the

666
00:28:24,389 --> 00:28:22,799
regression slightly easier yeah yeah i

667
00:28:26,549 --> 00:28:24,399
think i think that that could be the

668
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:26,559
case with me because it was basically

669
00:28:31,269 --> 00:28:29,200
turning up at a stranger's house

670
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:31,279
and expecting to be sort of hypnotized

671
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:32,640
to go into a past life when it's

672
00:28:34,870 --> 00:28:34,159
something you someone you don't even

673
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:34,880
know

674
00:28:40,470 --> 00:28:38,240
met a few times and sort of got some

675
00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:40,480
sort of a understanding and a bond like

676
00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:41,679
you say

677
00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:43,600
maybe that makes a difference

678
00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:44,399
you know

679
00:28:50,710 --> 00:28:46,880
i i think i think is about having a

680
00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:50,720
trust uh in like i said and and having

681
00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:51,840
the

682
00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:55,919
let go

683
00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:57,520
because i trust you

684
00:29:00,230 --> 00:28:58,480
yeah

685
00:29:02,549 --> 00:29:00,240
and and that's that's the thing and

686
00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:02,559
that's that was the gift of dolores so

687
00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:05,120
in a way because everybody really kind

688
00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:08,320
of uh i feel you know really trusted her

689
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:10,720
really respected her she was very well

690
00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:12,640
known so

691
00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:14,960
and she found that she could regress

692
00:29:20,070 --> 00:29:17,919
most people quite easily

693
00:29:22,310 --> 00:29:20,080
but i think that was because she had

694
00:29:24,789 --> 00:29:22,320
something special that people could

695
00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:24,799
sense you know it was you can just put

696
00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:26,480
anybody in that position they wouldn't

697
00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:28,799
be as successful as um

698
00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:31,120
as what she wants hmm

699
00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:32,720
yeah i mean i kind of go in my own

700
00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:35,039
instance i got to a point where she was

701
00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:37,200
saying about opening doors and going

702
00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:39,520
down the pathway and

703
00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:41,760
and i got to a point is am i making yeah

704
00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:43,440
because i was coming out with the with

705
00:29:48,389 --> 00:29:46,159
comments and things but i i kind of

706
00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:48,399
thought am i actually making this up or

707
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:50,559
is it actual true memories

708
00:29:53,909 --> 00:29:51,600
you know

709
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:53,919
there are signs of being in a regressed

710
00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:55,760
state okay

711
00:30:00,630 --> 00:29:58,000
so a regression therapist will start

712
00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:00,640
looking out for that so what are those

713
00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:03,120
you notice when somebody comes into the

714
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:05,279
room that they will have a particular

715
00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:07,440
color around maybe their nose their

716
00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:09,919
cheeks you know you have color or you

717
00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:12,240
don't have color you can be pale so the

718
00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:14,640
regression therapist looks at the power

719
00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:16,880
of your skin because an aggressor a

720
00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:19,440
regressed state that will change if

721
00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:21,360
you're pale you might become a bit uh

722
00:30:26,789 --> 00:30:23,760
redder and if you've got red bits they

723
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:26,799
might go pale or become redder the other

724
00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:30,559
the other side the other sign rather is

725
00:30:34,630 --> 00:30:32,960
an unconscious reaction and an

726
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:34,640
unconscious reaction means when you

727
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:37,279
start to gulp you you can't you know

728
00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:38,880
like you're in an interview and you

729
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:40,559
really don't want to go up but you stop

730
00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:42,960
it's an unconscious part where your body

731
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:44,799
is starting to relax and the unconscious

732
00:30:49,029 --> 00:30:46,240
is taking over

733
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:49,039
so if you're if you've done a few gulps

734
00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:51,760
then you are actually relaxing and also

735
00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:54,720
your stomach might start to churn

736
00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:57,120
because your body is relaxing the other

737
00:31:00,789 --> 00:30:58,720
side of being in a regress straight

738
00:31:02,230 --> 00:31:00,799
state is the regression therapist will

739
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:02,240
look out for your feet slightly

740
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:04,960
twitching or your hands switching and a

741
00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:07,200
little bit of rapid eye movement above

742
00:31:13,029 --> 00:31:10,000
the the eyelids as it were they're all

743
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:13,039
signs that you're going into a relaxed

744
00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:14,159
state

745
00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:15,120
right

746
00:31:18,389 --> 00:31:17,200
well that's something i wouldn't have

747
00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:18,399
known about

748
00:31:22,549 --> 00:31:20,480
and there's hope that my therapist did

749
00:31:24,389 --> 00:31:22,559
or if you call your birth therapist um

750
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:24,399
but anyway it wasn't very successful

751
00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:26,640
that's all i can say um

752
00:31:29,909 --> 00:31:28,480
i'm not that i don't i don't i do

753
00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:29,919
believe in it but it's just i think it

754
00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:32,240
was just me i was a bad subject for it

755
00:31:35,269 --> 00:31:33,760
but yeah

756
00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:35,279
that's the thing but you know once you

757
00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:37,840
do get into that really comfortable

758
00:31:43,350 --> 00:31:41,120
relaxed state then it is surprising you

759
00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:43,360
know what some people come out with and

760
00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:46,960
sometimes it isn't about past lives and

761
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:49,200
that intrigues me because for example

762
00:31:53,830 --> 00:31:52,000
one lady she was from france an english

763
00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:53,840
person living in france that had come

764
00:31:58,710 --> 00:31:55,919
back over to england

765
00:32:01,669 --> 00:31:58,720
and and i regressed her and she was

766
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:01,679
talking about these geometrical

767
00:32:07,350 --> 00:32:04,480
uh wire copper meshes and she was a

768
00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:07,360
gardener by trade in this life

769
00:32:11,669 --> 00:32:09,760
uh so in in the past life regression she

770
00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:11,679
didn't get there exactly to pass life

771
00:32:14,870 --> 00:32:12,960
but she came out with all of these

772
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:14,880
different geometrical shapes that she

773
00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:17,600
could put over plants to help them in to

774
00:32:23,190 --> 00:32:19,760
encourage to grow

775
00:32:25,990 --> 00:32:23,200
so i i so sometimes it is it is about

776
00:32:29,909 --> 00:32:26,000
about that and and sometimes in a past

777
00:32:33,909 --> 00:32:29,919
life regression it can be to somebody

778
00:32:35,669 --> 00:32:33,919
that maybe had passed over in this life

779
00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:35,679
um but

780
00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:38,399
i regressed many many years ago now

781
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:41,600
was described in the vietnam war

782
00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:43,440
but he was my age

783
00:32:46,870 --> 00:32:44,480
so

784
00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:46,880
he couldn't have been in the vietnam war

785
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:48,640
and i was talking to his mother

786
00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:51,279
fashion therapist you know regarding

787
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:53,200
this at the time who had explained

788
00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:55,679
myself and they also said they noticed

789
00:32:59,909 --> 00:32:57,200
that from time to time it's like you can

790
00:33:02,389 --> 00:32:59,919
get a soul memory that's uh impregnated

791
00:33:04,070 --> 00:33:02,399
into the planet is is one idea that's

792
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:04,080
being mooted like the collective

793
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:05,440
unconscious

794
00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:07,919
that people are tapping into because you

795
00:33:11,669 --> 00:33:10,320
know otherwise that doesn't make any

796
00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:11,679
sense

797
00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:13,760
hmm let's go back to the delay lines

798
00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:15,360
again now we were talking about lay

799
00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:18,000
lines across britain and we've and we've

800
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:19,679
sort of kind of mentioned about uh

801
00:33:23,590 --> 00:33:22,000
there's lay lines that actually like how

802
00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:23,600
some of our lay lines actually match up

803
00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:25,200
with the pyramids don't they go right

804
00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:27,360
through the middle of the pyramids and

805
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:29,679
also other places in the world

806
00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:30,720
now

807
00:33:35,509 --> 00:33:32,640
how would that come about unless they

808
00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:35,519
were at some sort of um or

809
00:33:40,149 --> 00:33:38,000
i'd say alien knowledge do you feel that

810
00:33:41,690 --> 00:33:40,159
maybe there were civilizations and it's

811
00:33:43,509 --> 00:33:41,700
been destroyed and um

812
00:33:45,909 --> 00:33:43,519
[Music]

813
00:33:47,909 --> 00:33:45,919
so many thousands of years ago and

814
00:33:49,990 --> 00:33:47,919
you know maybe a nuclear disaster or

815
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:50,000
something

816
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:51,840
it could well be because when you look

817
00:33:57,430 --> 00:33:54,320
to some of the indian scriptures they do

818
00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:57,440
describe a kind of nuclear event but one

819
00:34:03,269 --> 00:34:00,480
event that brian forrester and dr robert

820
00:34:04,789 --> 00:34:03,279
shock speak of in their research with

821
00:34:07,830 --> 00:34:04,799
ancient sites

822
00:34:11,669 --> 00:34:07,840
is that about 12 000 years ago when the

823
00:34:13,990 --> 00:34:11,679
ices when the ice melted that was

824
00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:14,000
according to dr robert shock because

825
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:17,040
there was a solar plasma event where the

826
00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:20,639
sun kind of spewed out uh if you will

827
00:34:25,990 --> 00:34:23,040
you know all of this uh energy and they

828
00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:26,000
look at some ancient sites in peru and

829
00:34:28,790 --> 00:34:27,919
in egypt where it looks like they've

830
00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:28,800
been

831
00:34:35,109 --> 00:34:32,079
such heat such immense heat it's like

832
00:34:37,030 --> 00:34:35,119
turned stone into glass

833
00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:37,040
so they think there was that big event

834
00:34:42,149 --> 00:34:39,200
that that happened at the time and that

835
00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:42,159
the ancient sites like the pyramids like

836
00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:45,760
places like uh polenki and mexico and

837
00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:46,720
you know

838
00:34:53,109 --> 00:34:49,599
bolivia and other places besides are

839
00:34:54,869 --> 00:34:53,119
much much older than what we've been

840
00:35:00,630 --> 00:34:54,879
told from the you know the pyramids

841
00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:00,640
being 2500 bc palenque being a 8 a.d etc

842
00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:03,440
etc stonehenge being three phase one

843
00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:06,320
3000 bc so they're putting the whole

844
00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:09,520
timeline back much much further and

845
00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:12,480
saying that then what happened is that

846
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:15,200
the sites got taken over by a new

847
00:35:19,349 --> 00:35:16,480
civilization

848
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:19,359
so it was the the pharaohs of egypt that

849
00:35:24,150 --> 00:35:21,680
took over the existing pyramids they

850
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:24,160
didn't build them they kind of put their

851
00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:27,200
mark on them like at karnak and luxor

852
00:35:32,710 --> 00:35:29,040
ramesses the great it's a bit like me

853
00:35:34,230 --> 00:35:32,720
going along but maria was here 1979.

854
00:35:36,630 --> 00:35:34,240
you know that's that's what what

855
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:36,640
happened according to to some of their

856
00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:38,720
theories and i think that again it that

857
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:41,680
is probably correct i think that the

858
00:35:46,230 --> 00:35:44,640
sites are indeed much older than what

859
00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:46,240
we've been led to believe by the

860
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:47,839
archaeological

861
00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:52,240
very poor radio carbon dating scheme

862
00:35:58,069 --> 00:35:54,880
and also we must get into the subject of

863
00:35:59,589 --> 00:35:58,079
was elevation used i see that myself but

864
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:59,599
so i don't know what your view is on

865
00:36:02,230 --> 00:36:00,560
that

866
00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:02,240
well yeah like i say i think if you've

867
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:04,320
got the right kind of earth current i

868
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:06,480
think and you you know some people say

869
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:09,760
sound technology can help move uh move

870
00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:12,720
things which is you know again has been

871
00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:16,000
explored so i think a combination of

872
00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:16,960
different

873
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:18,880
happenings and

874
00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:21,359
the neutralizing the earth and yes i

875
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:23,760
think you could levitate things i mean

876
00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:26,480
and you and people know that that is is

877
00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:29,359
possible and even that russian boxer

878
00:36:35,589 --> 00:36:33,200
that i can't think of his name he just

879
00:36:37,990 --> 00:36:35,599
won a fight recently he claims he's a

880
00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:38,000
russian he claims he can levitate that's

881
00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:40,000
one of these big things that's right

882
00:36:43,349 --> 00:36:41,680
yeah i'm not into boxing so i couldn't i

883
00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:43,359
can't help you though

884
00:36:50,470 --> 00:36:46,960
no no i i heard it on the radio here

885
00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:50,480
actually not that you know i'm into into

886
00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:53,359
sport at all actually but yes but but my

887
00:36:58,150 --> 00:36:55,599
point is you know some people i claim

888
00:37:01,030 --> 00:36:58,160
that and another person i know that was

889
00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:01,040
above to the crossing point of two earth

890
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:03,760
energies and a massive spiral earth

891
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:06,160
energy uh that's very strong at the

892
00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:09,040
sanctuary which is as us ancient site

893
00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:12,160
associated to avery henge in wiltshire

894
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:14,480
which is the world's largest uh stone

895
00:37:19,589 --> 00:37:16,000
circle

896
00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:19,599
then uh at at sowhan he claimed that he

897
00:37:25,990 --> 00:37:24,000
uh levitated above that uh central point

898
00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:26,000
and he was off the ground for about sort

899
00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:28,160
of like six to seven inches and he's a

900
00:37:33,430 --> 00:37:31,599
he's a big guy to levitate so there is a

901
00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:33,440
force in the earth there's a force in

902
00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:35,200
the earth that can come out of the

903
00:37:39,990 --> 00:37:37,599
ground and can push

904
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:40,000
up at certain times of the year so i

905
00:37:46,550 --> 00:37:42,800
think the the placement of the sun plays

906
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:46,560
a big role in if if levitation was ruled

907
00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:48,800
uh was used rather

908
00:37:53,990 --> 00:37:51,119
and and and the moon alike i think they

909
00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:54,000
were really good astronomers knew when

910
00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:56,160
uh the energies were really strong

911
00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:58,079
because it's not always just the new and

912
00:38:03,109 --> 00:38:00,320
the full moon it can be six or seven

913
00:38:05,589 --> 00:38:03,119
days uh which is more corresponding to

914
00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:05,599
the quarter days for underground water

915
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:08,000
releasing electromagnetic

916
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:10,800
pulses then you have what's called earth

917
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:13,680
voltages they come out of the ground and

918
00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:14,880
they can be

919
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:17,520
measured that's all energy at the end of

920
00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:19,280
the day

921
00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:21,680
right now i've got a question here now

922
00:38:26,710 --> 00:38:24,079
your late father was dennis wheatley he

923
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:26,720
and he was a master dalsa

924
00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:29,440
now i've got her asked a question

925
00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:31,760
dennis wheatley was a a well-known

926
00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:34,880
writer well i was that in your family i

927
00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:36,320
don't i don't suppose that was your

928
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:38,079
father but i'm saying about was he is it

929
00:38:40,870 --> 00:38:39,520
the same dennis wheatley that is in your

930
00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:40,880
family or not

931
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:43,599
uh in the family but not my father no no

932
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:46,000
no but it was actually in your family

933
00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:49,200
the the well-known paranormal writer

934
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:52,640
yes yes but i like to say not not the uh

935
00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:55,599
the douser uh as it were a few years

936
00:38:59,190 --> 00:38:57,200
further than your father would have been

937
00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:59,200
i think yeah yeah that would be a big

938
00:39:02,790 --> 00:39:00,400
age difference

939
00:39:03,589 --> 00:39:02,800
to have her have a a daughter uh as it

940
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:03,599
were

941
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:04,880
if it might have been his father or

942
00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:06,320
something

943
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:08,480
no no it's it's a it's a relative but

944
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:12,960
more like a um a second cousin

945
00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:15,760
but all of my my family on my immediate

946
00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:18,480
family are very interested in the the in

947
00:39:22,550 --> 00:39:19,920
the paranormal

948
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:22,560
you know they all are and because we

949
00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:26,400
used to live in the 70s in in a very um

950
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:28,480
a house that was quite old i mean it was

951
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:31,440
an old kind of farmhouse uh that had

952
00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:34,560
poltergeist activity

953
00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:36,079
yeah

954
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:38,160
so that was from about the age of eight

955
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:41,040
or nine that i experienced you know

956
00:39:45,589 --> 00:39:43,040
poltergeist activity but as a kid i

957
00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:45,599
wasn't really very frightened of that at

958
00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:48,720
all in fact when uh we had a big chest

959
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:51,119
um the kind of like a big pine

960
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:53,440
you know where you put plates on dresser

961
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:55,680
and uh it used to get moved and you

962
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:57,040
could see it move because the

963
00:40:01,349 --> 00:39:59,359
indentation in the carpet would move and

964
00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:01,359
my brother and i used to try and run to

965
00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:03,760
beat the poltergeist to move

966
00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:06,000
the furniture and i suppose that led me

967
00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:08,319
on many years later to do things like

968
00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:10,400
house clearing you know i do a lot of

969
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:12,800
house healing and house clearing because

970
00:40:18,069 --> 00:40:15,359
i think that everything has a story and

971
00:40:21,190 --> 00:40:18,079
if you get to the story of what happened

972
00:40:23,109 --> 00:40:21,200
in the house or what occurred or what

973
00:40:26,790 --> 00:40:23,119
went on as it were

974
00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:26,800
then um then you do get uh a lot of kind

975
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:29,680
of healing and the the uh events will

976
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:32,160
stop and they will pass

977
00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:33,839
now i just had to ask that question

978
00:40:37,270 --> 00:40:35,359
because i thought it can't be just a

979
00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:37,280
coincidence that their name did it

980
00:40:40,950 --> 00:40:39,200
sweetly but so because i was i actually

981
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:40,960
sort of was reading those in

982
00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:42,720
probably in the 60s a lot of dennis

983
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:43,920
wheatley books

984
00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:45,760
but i just had to ask that question i

985
00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:47,359
hope you excuse that

986
00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:50,000
yeah that's fine now i asked ask any

987
00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:52,720
question that you like that's right um

988
00:40:57,270 --> 00:40:54,960
i know one of your researching of the

989
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:57,280
book uh you were followed by us just

990
00:41:02,550 --> 00:40:59,760
around the stone circles by a spirit

991
00:41:04,390 --> 00:41:02,560
uh who guided you to rediscover a

992
00:41:05,910 --> 00:41:04,400
long-lost solar alignment

993
00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:05,920
um yes

994
00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:06,880
are you

995
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:11,440
know your spirit guides

996
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:14,560
yeah i think i am actually you know

997
00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:17,280
sometimes more times than others

998
00:41:21,190 --> 00:41:18,880
to to be fair

999
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:21,200
uh so sometimes i feel really tuned in

1000
00:41:26,390 --> 00:41:23,280
and get a lot of information then

1001
00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:26,400
another day i might not you know

1002
00:41:32,829 --> 00:41:30,160
so yes i do and when i was at avery our

1003
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:32,839
spirit definitely followed um

1004
00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:36,560
around and put put me and my co-author

1005
00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:39,520
of that time into the right place to to

1006
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:40,240
see

1007
00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:42,480
and figure out the solar alignment so i

1008
00:41:46,710 --> 00:41:44,480
think the ancients

1009
00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:46,720
wanted me there

1010
00:41:50,710 --> 00:41:48,880
and i researched it and found out that

1011
00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:50,720
you know that part of the henge bank

1012
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:52,800
hadn't been built there it wasn't a

1013
00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:54,960
reoriginal feature and all sort of

1014
00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:56,960
things like that but i think the

1015
00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:00,640
ancients do want to guide us to to find

1016
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:03,920
out things i really really do and only

1017
00:42:08,710 --> 00:42:06,560
the other day about all sort of two to

1018
00:42:12,710 --> 00:42:08,720
three two weeks ago two to three weeks

1019
00:42:14,470 --> 00:42:12,720
ago i was up on the downs um researching

1020
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:14,480
and walking around some of the round

1021
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,800
barrows uh trying to get in touch with

1022
00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:18,640
the bronze age people

1023
00:42:26,069 --> 00:42:23,520
and i found a pre-coinage money ring

1024
00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:26,079
that was just from the mid bronze age

1025
00:42:30,230 --> 00:42:27,920
before you know the coins of the iron

1026
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:30,240
age came in and i had it you know

1027
00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:32,800
clarified that that's what it was from a

1028
00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:35,680
creator of a museum and i wear that

1029
00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:38,240
around my neck now because i feel close

1030
00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:41,760
to to the ancestors uh that way so i

1031
00:42:46,309 --> 00:42:43,760
really do feel that you know they give

1032
00:42:49,270 --> 00:42:46,319
us signs and and encourage us because

1033
00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:49,280
they want their story to be told and

1034
00:42:53,829 --> 00:42:51,359
they want it told their way and that's

1035
00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:53,839
what i'm trying to do in my next book

1036
00:42:59,670 --> 00:42:56,400
which will be out next year is telling

1037
00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:59,680
their story uh through their sights and

1038
00:43:01,510 --> 00:43:00,720
and

1039
00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:01,520
through

1040
00:43:05,910 --> 00:43:03,440
looking at the ancient sites in a

1041
00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:05,920
different way to to how they've been

1042
00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:07,680
seen before

1043
00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:12,000
next question uh you teach tarot as well

1044
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:14,880
yes yes i i've been teaching uh tarot

1045
00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:18,640
now for many many years actually um

1046
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:22,000
or probably about 25 years now

1047
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:22,880
and

1048
00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:24,880
the tarot has always again it's a great

1049
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:27,599
spiritual tool like you know i was

1050
00:43:33,349 --> 00:43:30,640
talking about the past life regression

1051
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:33,359
and um so i think it's really good i

1052
00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:35,280
think it's more than just divine in the

1053
00:43:39,030 --> 00:43:36,880
past the present and the future it's

1054
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:39,040
about finding out about our spiritual

1055
00:43:43,829 --> 00:43:41,280
side and about our spiritual heritage

1056
00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:43,839
and our gifts and what we can do and

1057
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:47,200
what we can be inspired by so for me the

1058
00:43:52,309 --> 00:43:49,440
the tarot deck is an inspirational

1059
00:43:55,430 --> 00:43:52,319
spiritual tool that can help us develop

1060
00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:55,440
and find out what our soul's purpose is

1061
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:58,160
how to develop ourselves more rather

1062
00:44:01,910 --> 00:43:59,760
than just saying that happened in the

1063
00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:01,920
past and this is likely to happen in the

1064
00:44:05,589 --> 00:44:04,480
future it's so so much more in depth

1065
00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:05,599
than that

1066
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:08,880
hmm it's still it amazing how how much

1067
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:10,960
you've taken in over the years you know

1068
00:44:15,910 --> 00:44:13,200
you've learned tarot dowsing

1069
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:15,920
um you do dousing tours you do workshops

1070
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:18,880
at sacred sites and everything um i just

1071
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:20,480
don't know how you sort of managed to

1072
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:22,960
fit all that into your head you know

1073
00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:24,800
because i i tried to learn a bit of

1074
00:44:29,190 --> 00:44:27,200
tarot and i just can't cannot sort of um

1075
00:44:33,349 --> 00:44:29,200
let it sink in

1076
00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:33,359
well when i was 16 i i

1077
00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:35,680
there was i i used to have a little pony

1078
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:37,520
and i was i just have to go and feed it

1079
00:44:41,109 --> 00:44:39,280
in the winter and

1080
00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:41,119
there was a carrot well i'm kind of like

1081
00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:44,319
a van thing like caravan uh parked in in

1082
00:44:48,470 --> 00:44:46,960
the lay by nearby and it was two uh

1083
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:48,480
travellers

1084
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:50,560
and i used to knock on the door and ask

1085
00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:51,920
what they were doing because i found

1086
00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:53,520
them to be quite intriguing and they

1087
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:55,760
used to just tell me to go away and

1088
00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:57,440
basically get lost

1089
00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:00,400
and and after a while i saw

1090
00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:02,880
the lady doing the tarot and asked her

1091
00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:04,800
you know what it was about and she

1092
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:07,520
taught me the song of the tarot which is

1093
00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:09,839
because some travelers

1094
00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:10,720
then

1095
00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:13,119
didn't necessarily read books or want to

1096
00:45:18,630 --> 00:45:15,760
read books actually so their heritage

1097
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:18,640
was more like learn the whole 10 cards

1098
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:21,520
all at once by knowing the story behind

1099
00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:25,599
it and then the tarot becomes very easy

1100
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:28,160
very easy so that's how i learned i

1101
00:45:33,349 --> 00:45:30,400
learned the and you can learn the the

1102
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:33,359
first 10 cards of the cups within a very

1103
00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:35,680
very short time because you know the

1104
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:38,720
story behind it so that's how i got

1105
00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:41,920
taught that at 16 and i can remember

1106
00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:45,599
when i was about 18 years old uh working

1107
00:45:50,390 --> 00:45:47,520
that was one of the only straight jobs i

1108
00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:50,400
really did have working for the nhs and

1109
00:45:53,670 --> 00:45:52,079
all the ladies in the office found out i

1110
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:53,680
did tower and i ended up doing the

1111
00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:54,370
bosses

1112
00:46:00,950 --> 00:45:58,720
[Laughter]

1113
00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:00,960
until i left like i just got thoroughly

1114
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:04,240
bored and thought i can't do this

1115
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:05,760
all the patients doing their tarot

1116
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:11,510
yeah so i think there's easy ways to

1117
00:46:17,829 --> 00:46:14,400
learn the tarot and there are uh the

1118
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:17,839
hard way is uh using your left brain

1119
00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:20,800
trying to remember the meanings of the

1120
00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:24,000
card randomly by looking at a spread

1121
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:25,760
like they tell you how to do in the

1122
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:27,440
little booklets that come along with

1123
00:46:33,670 --> 00:46:30,720
tarot cards that is so so counter uh

1124
00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:33,680
intuitive and it's to me in my my humble

1125
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:36,160
opinion it's a waste of time because i

1126
00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:39,359
really do feel that the the old way of

1127
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:41,680
learning the like you said learning the

1128
00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:45,040
whole 10 cards all at once is is it's

1129
00:46:49,829 --> 00:46:47,200
just honestly it's so easy i've got a

1130
00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:49,839
video uh youtube if you just put my name

1131
00:46:53,750 --> 00:46:52,000
maria wheatley and taro

1132
00:46:56,069 --> 00:46:53,760
uh that video will come up it was a

1133
00:46:59,829 --> 00:46:56,079
festival many years ago well i'm doing

1134
00:47:03,270 --> 00:46:59,839
the first 10 car first 20 cards

1135
00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:03,280
uh with the song of the tower

1136
00:47:07,589 --> 00:47:05,119
i have to put the link to that on my

1137
00:47:10,069 --> 00:47:07,599
paranormal dimensions page as i will do

1138
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,079
for your books and things as well so and

1139
00:47:14,150 --> 00:47:12,400
so another thing that interests me which

1140
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:14,160
i didn't get a chance to go and see when

1141
00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:15,359
i was in uh

1142
00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:16,960
butcher

1143
00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:20,160
just a few weeks back was wood henge

1144
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,000
could you tell me a bit about what what

1145
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:24,720
the henge is

1146
00:47:29,670 --> 00:47:27,119
woodhenge is an integral part of the

1147
00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:29,680
stonehenge environs so you've got

1148
00:47:33,190 --> 00:47:31,119
stonehenge

1149
00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:33,200
then some distance away

1150
00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:35,520
you've got woodhenge which was a timber

1151
00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:37,760
structure which was next door to

1152
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:39,440
darlington walls

1153
00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:45,040
temples uh and a massive henge

1154
00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:47,440
surrounding it and and it was also the

1155
00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:49,520
place where the people that built

1156
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:52,960
stonehenge lived but wood hence lies

1157
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:55,040
just outside of that henge monument of

1158
00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:57,359
dovington walls it contained six

1159
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:00,000
concentric

1160
00:48:05,829 --> 00:48:02,640
timber circles going round and the ones

1161
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:05,839
on the inside were really big timbers

1162
00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:07,440
and the ones on the outside were a

1163
00:48:13,589 --> 00:48:10,480
little bit thinner and it's aligned uh

1164
00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:13,599
with a small grave of a believed to be

1165
00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:15,200
of a child

1166
00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:18,240
uh or teenager that's in alignment to

1167
00:48:24,790 --> 00:48:21,760
the midsummer sunrise like at stonehenge

1168
00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:24,800
and it would have been a place of

1169
00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:26,960
worship it would have been a place where

1170
00:48:34,470 --> 00:48:30,640
people would have gone to probably prior

1171
00:48:36,630 --> 00:48:34,480
to going down to woodhenge itself

1172
00:48:38,710 --> 00:48:36,640
there are archaeological models saying

1173
00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:38,720
that all the timber structures represent

1174
00:48:44,069 --> 00:48:41,040
the land of the living and the stone is

1175
00:48:46,309 --> 00:48:44,079
immortal it's the land of the dead but i

1176
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:46,319
think that's too simplistic i think that

1177
00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:48,480
the woodhenge has a such a different

1178
00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:51,760
energy to stonehenge stonehenge can be

1179
00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:54,400
very intense okay when you go on the

1180
00:48:58,630 --> 00:48:56,800
inside it's very very intense it can

1181
00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:58,640
give you massive downloads for some

1182
00:49:02,870 --> 00:49:00,720
people it's a little bit too much they

1183
00:49:05,990 --> 00:49:02,880
feel quite claustrophobic almost in

1184
00:49:08,309 --> 00:49:06,000
there woodhenge on the other hand

1185
00:49:11,030 --> 00:49:08,319
is aligned on six consensual six

1186
00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:11,040
concentric circles of energy

1187
00:49:17,750 --> 00:49:14,800
and it is very uh powerful but very

1188
00:49:20,549 --> 00:49:17,760
relaxing people feel good at stone at

1189
00:49:22,870 --> 00:49:20,559
wood hens they feel they're relaxed

1190
00:49:25,589 --> 00:49:22,880
there they feel it's good energy so it's

1191
00:49:29,349 --> 00:49:25,599
got a completely different feel

1192
00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:29,359
to um stonehenge and like i said inside

1193
00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:32,160
of durrington wars complex you'd had two

1194
00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:35,920
more uh timber stone circles as timber

1195
00:49:42,069 --> 00:49:38,720
circles rather but they were lined the

1196
00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:42,079
opposite way round to stonehenge so one

1197
00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:44,559
of those timber structures was aligned

1198
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:45,920
to the

1199
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:49,040
mid-winter not the the mid-summer that

1200
00:49:55,589 --> 00:49:51,920
stonehenge is in alignment to and it had

1201
00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:55,599
a a very small stone avenue going down

1202
00:50:00,309 --> 00:49:58,160
to the river avon and you find that a

1203
00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:00,319
lot of the ancient sites whether that's

1204
00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:03,760
avery or stanton drew or darrington

1205
00:50:09,190 --> 00:50:06,800
walls darlington henge monument or

1206
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:09,200
stonehenge itself will have an avenue

1207
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:12,400
leading to a river so surface water

1208
00:50:17,109 --> 00:50:15,440
played a significant role within the

1209
00:50:18,230 --> 00:50:17,119
ancient sites

1210
00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:18,240
hmm

1211
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:21,200
and the curses monument what is that

1212
00:50:25,510 --> 00:50:23,359
the cursus monument was stood in front

1213
00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:25,520
of stonehenge it was a neolithic

1214
00:50:29,349 --> 00:50:27,920
monument that predated the stonehenge

1215
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:29,359
that we're familiar with with the

1216
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:32,000
lintelled circle and the trilophones on

1217
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:33,359
the inside

1218
00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:36,160
uh so going back you know about five and

1219
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:38,480
a half thousand years ago imagine that

1220
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:40,720
you've still got stonehenge

1221
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:43,280
as a henge monument a ditch in a bank

1222
00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:46,720
with a stone circle of 56 blue stones on

1223
00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:49,920
the inside and standing in front of that

1224
00:50:55,109 --> 00:50:52,000
contemporary with it or a little bit

1225
00:50:59,270 --> 00:50:55,119
earlier was a massive structure nearly

1226
00:51:01,589 --> 00:50:59,280
two miles long 1.7 miles long made of

1227
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:01,599
chalk brick block

1228
00:51:07,589 --> 00:51:04,720
creating a massive enclosure and nobody

1229
00:51:11,270 --> 00:51:07,599
knows what that was being used for why

1230
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:11,280
it was built but it stood there up until

1231
00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:14,400
about sort of the mid 18th century

1232
00:51:19,990 --> 00:51:17,440
because the uh antiquarian dr william

1233
00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:20,000
stoopley drew it out

1234
00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:20,960
and

1235
00:51:24,870 --> 00:51:22,960
uh showed that it was you know a

1236
00:51:27,589 --> 00:51:24,880
monument in its own right but what it

1237
00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:27,599
was used for is a mystery

1238
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:29,520
okay

1239
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:30,640
i thought your mother is gonna be an

1240
00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:32,400
amazing answer then but obviously it's

1241
00:51:37,589 --> 00:51:34,400
submission

1242
00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:37,599
nothing is left of it today to even

1243
00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:41,280
explore it's all gone it got plowed out

1244
00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:44,800
it just remains as a kind of aerial uh

1245
00:51:49,349 --> 00:51:47,040
you can see it from from the air in

1246
00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:49,359
what's called a patch mark

1247
00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:51,520
but nobody really knows what it was used

1248
00:51:56,549 --> 00:51:53,359
used for i mean there were other curses

1249
00:51:59,670 --> 00:51:56,559
monuments in the area which were seven

1250
00:52:01,910 --> 00:51:59,680
miles long which was endorsed

1251
00:52:04,549 --> 00:52:01,920
and there was curses that he throw

1252
00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:04,559
beneath quite close to heathrow airport

1253
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:05,920
yeah right

1254
00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:09,119
curses monument and curses monuments uh

1255
00:52:13,990 --> 00:52:11,680
in lech laid and a lot of different

1256
00:52:15,829 --> 00:52:14,000
places besides they were a neolithic

1257
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:15,839
monument and again the only

1258
00:52:19,109 --> 00:52:17,920
interpretation an archaeologist will

1259
00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:19,119
give you

1260
00:52:23,829 --> 00:52:21,200
is that they were

1261
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:23,839
the uh death rights they were used for

1262
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:26,400
funeral processions which you know why

1263
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:28,079
would you build a bigger enclosure just

1264
00:52:32,470 --> 00:52:30,240
to mourn maybe they did maybe they

1265
00:52:35,349 --> 00:52:32,480
didn't maybe there was something else

1266
00:52:38,069 --> 00:52:35,359
going on within within that landscape

1267
00:52:40,470 --> 00:52:38,079
when we did some tests years ago on the

1268
00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:40,480
uh curses monument near the middle but

1269
00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:43,040
not exactly at the geometric center of

1270
00:52:47,910 --> 00:52:45,839
that monument but quite close we got a

1271
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:47,920
lot of radiation coming out of the

1272
00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:49,119
ground

1273
00:52:53,349 --> 00:52:51,440
so uh there could have been something to

1274
00:52:55,670 --> 00:52:53,359
do with that were they harnessing some

1275
00:52:57,430 --> 00:52:55,680
kind of earth radiation at that point

1276
00:52:59,670 --> 00:52:57,440
were they using it for medicinal

1277
00:53:01,829 --> 00:52:59,680
purposes what were they using it for

1278
00:53:04,069 --> 00:53:01,839
free energy purposes

1279
00:53:05,430 --> 00:53:04,079
what was going on there it's it's very

1280
00:53:08,230 --> 00:53:05,440
difficult when you don't have the

1281
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:08,240
monument left to try and decode it in

1282
00:53:13,109 --> 00:53:10,480
full that's very interesting i didn't

1283
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:13,119
know that at all wiltshire they had also

1284
00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:14,800
most of the west country is very famous

1285
00:53:20,069 --> 00:53:17,200
for crop circles um have you ever

1286
00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:20,079
witnessed any being made or i guess the

1287
00:53:23,990 --> 00:53:21,520
question i'm asking is what is your

1288
00:53:26,390 --> 00:53:24,000
opinion of crop circles i think quite a

1289
00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:26,400
few of them are definitely man-made i i

1290
00:53:30,549 --> 00:53:29,200
know some circle makers for sure i do

1291
00:53:33,510 --> 00:53:30,559
too

1292
00:53:35,910 --> 00:53:33,520
uh so that there are circle makers out

1293
00:53:38,790 --> 00:53:35,920
there and then some of the uh

1294
00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:38,800
researchers say that the the more simple

1295
00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:41,040
circles are the more genuine ones and

1296
00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:43,760
the more you know fancy other circles

1297
00:53:49,030 --> 00:53:45,680
get the more likely they are to be

1298
00:53:52,309 --> 00:53:49,040
man-made i i've kind of looked at the

1299
00:53:54,549 --> 00:53:52,319
the the crop circles and uh you know

1300
00:53:56,549 --> 00:53:54,559
i've been quite fascinated by them but i

1301
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:56,559
haven't studied them as much as i've

1302
00:54:01,270 --> 00:53:59,280
studied stone circles

1303
00:54:04,630 --> 00:54:01,280
uh to you know give a professional

1304
00:54:06,549 --> 00:54:04,640
opinion about them what i did notice

1305
00:54:09,230 --> 00:54:06,559
this year the corn is getting a lot

1306
00:54:12,150 --> 00:54:09,240
shorter than what it was back in the

1307
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:12,160
1990s i mean it's not really very tall

1308
00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:14,240
now it's only about two feet tall

1309
00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:16,559
because it's been engineered to have a

1310
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:20,000
smaller stalk and a much larger head

1311
00:54:25,109 --> 00:54:22,160
you know ear of corn that's how it's

1312
00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:25,119
been genetically modified too and you

1313
00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:27,119
you do get a lot of chemicals on the

1314
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:29,359
land now and and it gave me it gave me a

1315
00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:30,640
bit of a rash

1316
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:33,040
last time i went into a circle with

1317
00:54:35,430 --> 00:54:34,319
shorts on

1318
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:35,440
i mean have you worked with the

1319
00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:36,960
colleague andrews

1320
00:54:40,630 --> 00:54:38,880
there's also andrew collins so we don't

1321
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:40,640
he won't get the two mixed up but i

1322
00:54:44,069 --> 00:54:42,000
think they're both sort of been in the

1323
00:54:45,750 --> 00:54:44,079
area they're researching different

1324
00:54:47,270 --> 00:54:45,760
different things have you met up with

1325
00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:47,280
either of them

1326
00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:49,920
yes yes i know both of them uh colin

1327
00:54:56,309 --> 00:54:52,880
andrews i keep in contact with on our

1328
00:54:59,109 --> 00:54:56,319
social media he's one of the very early

1329
00:55:02,470 --> 00:54:59,119
investigators into crop circles along

1330
00:55:03,670 --> 00:55:02,480
with buster taylor and pat delgado for

1331
00:55:07,109 --> 00:55:03,680
example

1332
00:55:11,270 --> 00:55:07,119
they were you know the early pioneers of

1333
00:55:13,430 --> 00:55:11,280
crop circles and andrew collins uh has

1334
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:13,440
he investigated them and he's also

1335
00:55:17,829 --> 00:55:15,839
investigated ancient sites as well an

1336
00:55:19,349 --> 00:55:17,839
ancient civilization it's easy to get

1337
00:55:22,309 --> 00:55:19,359
the two of them mixed up isn't it andrew

1338
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:22,319
collins you call it entrance

1339
00:55:27,109 --> 00:55:25,040
yes it gets a bit much doesn't it yeah i

1340
00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:27,119
had andrew collins on the uh

1341
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:29,520
on the first show this year actually

1342
00:55:32,950 --> 00:55:31,359
show number 100 it was very interesting

1343
00:55:35,510 --> 00:55:32,960
actually do you know of any of the of

1344
00:55:37,109 --> 00:55:35,520
genuine uh yeah i think i i would know

1345
00:55:38,470 --> 00:55:37,119
personally whether they were i mean i

1346
00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:38,480
listened to you know people that

1347
00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:40,160
investigate them more because like i

1348
00:55:45,190 --> 00:55:42,559
said my forte is stone circles and

1349
00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:45,200
ancient monuments but about people say

1350
00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:47,280
oh this one is genuine because of this

1351
00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:50,960
reason and and that reason so so so

1352
00:55:56,069 --> 00:55:53,760
maybe maybe some are and then some have

1353
00:55:58,789 --> 00:55:56,079
never been claimed to be made by the

1354
00:56:00,549 --> 00:55:58,799
circle makers anyway so

1355
00:56:03,349 --> 00:56:00,559
who made those if they're not laying

1356
00:56:06,549 --> 00:56:03,359
plain to them so i think there are a

1357
00:56:08,230 --> 00:56:06,559
mixture is it's such a sector mixture of

1358
00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:08,240
different types of

1359
00:56:13,190 --> 00:56:10,960
peoples uh you know different

1360
00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:13,200
schools of thought with uh with the crop

1361
00:56:18,710 --> 00:56:15,599
circles it's difficult to get to the

1362
00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:18,720
truth uh these days and not so many are

1363
00:56:24,309 --> 00:56:20,880
turning up in the landscape as they used

1364
00:56:26,789 --> 00:56:24,319
to back in the kind of year 2000 or

1365
00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:26,799
something they they seem to be uh less

1366
00:56:30,150 --> 00:56:28,720
of them these days hmm i think the

1367
00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:30,160
puzzling thing is they do happen

1368
00:56:32,710 --> 00:56:31,680
elsewhere in the world as well don't

1369
00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:32,720
they

1370
00:56:39,589 --> 00:56:35,920
yes and and colin andrews pointed out

1371
00:56:42,549 --> 00:56:39,599
once that there was a tree circle

1372
00:56:43,349 --> 00:56:42,559
a tree circle all right a tree circle so

1373
00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:43,359
you know

1374
00:56:48,470 --> 00:56:45,440
you've got immense amount of energy to

1375
00:56:50,789 --> 00:56:48,480
get trees to lay down like a like a crop

1376
00:56:52,390 --> 00:56:50,799
circle it was a circle

1377
00:56:56,069 --> 00:56:52,400
uh but it was definitely all the trees

1378
00:56:58,710 --> 00:56:56,079
were laid down in in a circle itself so

1379
00:57:01,190 --> 00:56:58,720
that's very very intriguing and then

1380
00:57:03,190 --> 00:57:01,200
then there's been you know ones in paddy

1381
00:57:04,789 --> 00:57:03,200
fields in japan

1382
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:04,799
so there you're right there they're all

1383
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:06,400
over the world

1384
00:57:10,069 --> 00:57:08,640
hmm i mean how you get trees in a circle

1385
00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:10,079
i don't know because without heavy

1386
00:57:13,750 --> 00:57:11,760
equipment and you see all the tyre

1387
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:13,760
tracks and everything wouldn't you

1388
00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:16,000
yeah yeah they looked into that that was

1389
00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:18,000
that was one done by colin and uh that

1390
00:57:23,109 --> 00:57:21,359
was very very intriguing hmm now i think

1391
00:57:25,829 --> 00:57:23,119
your most recent book was it called

1392
00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:25,839
druid school star astrology was that

1393
00:57:30,710 --> 00:57:27,839
your most recent

1394
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:30,720
yeah i had that book uh that was uh

1395
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:33,680
printed and published rather by dolores

1396
00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:37,200
cannon's uh publishing company uh i was

1397
00:57:40,309 --> 00:57:39,119
like mountain publishing and yeah it's a

1398
00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:40,319
different way of looking at your

1399
00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:42,400
astrology chart it looks into because

1400
00:57:47,349 --> 00:57:44,480
i'm into past life regression it looks

1401
00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:47,359
into the past lives of a person by

1402
00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:50,000
changing the natal chart that's the kind

1403
00:57:55,109 --> 00:57:52,240
of circular astrology chart your

1404
00:57:57,589 --> 00:57:55,119
horoscope if you will your birth chart

1405
00:57:59,910 --> 00:57:57,599
into a six-pointed star which is the

1406
00:58:01,670 --> 00:57:59,920
symbol of the heart chakra and any

1407
00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:01,680
planets that fall into the symbol of the

1408
00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:04,480
heart chakra represent important past

1409
00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:06,720
lives that you've lived before this one

1410
00:58:10,789 --> 00:58:08,720
so that that's what i did and i got that

1411
00:58:14,390 --> 00:58:10,799
from an ancient site not far from

1412
00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:14,400
stonehenge called the codford circle

1413
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:16,319
and i was just not really sort of

1414
00:58:20,470 --> 00:58:18,400
meditating i was just walking around the

1415
00:58:22,390 --> 00:58:20,480
circle thinking that it's uh it's a

1416
00:58:25,030 --> 00:58:22,400
henge monument i was wondering if it had

1417
00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:25,040
standing stones at one time and you know

1418
00:58:29,349 --> 00:58:27,280
just enjoying the sight for for what it

1419
00:58:31,990 --> 00:58:29,359
was and the views are spectacular from

1420
00:58:35,030 --> 00:58:32,000
the codford circle it was definitely an

1421
00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:35,040
astronomical uh observatory at some

1422
00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:37,680
point because you've got 360 degrees of

1423
00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:40,319
skyline nothing impedes with that

1424
00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:42,880
skyline and that's when i got the the

1425
00:58:48,710 --> 00:58:45,280
idea and i kind of download all about

1426
00:58:50,950 --> 00:58:48,720
this ancient druid astrology

1427
00:58:53,990 --> 00:58:50,960
about past lives and and so i wrote a

1428
00:58:56,630 --> 00:58:54,000
book about it after i'd studied it did a

1429
00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:56,640
lot of charts you know is this real is

1430
00:59:00,470 --> 00:58:57,920
this um

1431
00:59:02,069 --> 00:59:00,480
true will it work out okay and i was

1432
00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:02,079
doing people's lives and people were

1433
00:59:05,589 --> 00:59:04,000
resonating with it said i got that in a

1434
00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:05,599
regression i got

1435
00:59:10,230 --> 00:59:08,160
that resonates with me and so it does

1436
00:59:12,630 --> 00:59:10,240
resonate with with a lot of people and

1437
00:59:14,710 --> 00:59:12,640
it's um and it's quite popular and i'm

1438
00:59:16,870 --> 00:59:14,720
working on some software with a friend

1439
00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:16,880
of mine uh to

1440
00:59:21,349 --> 00:59:19,440
sell pretty soon where you can figure

1441
00:59:23,670 --> 00:59:21,359
out your own chart just by putting in a

1442
00:59:26,069 --> 00:59:23,680
few birth details and the latitude and

1443
00:59:28,870 --> 00:59:26,079
longitude of where you live and then

1444
00:59:32,069 --> 00:59:28,880
your chart will transform from the

1445
00:59:34,390 --> 00:59:32,079
normal astrology chart to your uh soul

1446
00:59:36,309 --> 00:59:34,400
star chart all right

1447
00:59:39,190 --> 00:59:36,319
now when you say you get a download what

1448
00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:39,200
does that um actually mean do you mean

1449
00:59:43,750 --> 00:59:40,880
things pour into your head or does it

1450
00:59:45,430 --> 00:59:43,760
come down to ones and zeros or

1451
00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:45,440
they're not one not ones and zeros i'm

1452
00:59:50,470 --> 00:59:47,520
not very techno minded though they'd be

1453
00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:50,480
lost on me uh no just like with the kind

1454
00:59:54,549 --> 00:59:53,599
of vision or a sense of

1455
00:59:57,270 --> 00:59:54,559
uh

1456
00:59:59,109 --> 00:59:57,280
something is happening and you know why

1457
01:00:01,510 --> 00:59:59,119
did the planets mean that and it was a

1458
01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:01,520
whole load of kind of information it

1459
01:00:05,670 --> 01:00:03,760
took a while to process

1460
01:00:08,390 --> 01:00:05,680
actually and i also did a lot of

1461
01:00:11,910 --> 01:00:08,400
research into that as well you know what

1462
01:00:14,230 --> 01:00:11,920
did the ancient ceo think about these

1463
01:00:16,230 --> 01:00:14,240
sites what countries did they associate

1464
01:00:19,430 --> 01:00:16,240
with the sun so i i did a lot of

1465
01:00:20,470 --> 01:00:19,440
research as well but the initial core of

1466
01:00:29,349 --> 01:00:20,480
it

1467
01:00:31,829 --> 01:00:29,359
was um my druid guide that was telling

1468
01:00:35,109 --> 01:00:31,839
me about something that he did in a in a

1469
01:00:38,549 --> 01:00:35,119
previous uh existence and he was handing

1470
01:00:40,950 --> 01:00:38,559
that information on to me that's how how

1471
01:00:42,950 --> 01:00:40,960
i feel about it

1472
01:00:44,630 --> 01:00:42,960
it certainly seems as if you were chosen

1473
01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:44,640
to be doing what you're doing

1474
01:00:48,630 --> 01:00:46,240
um i don't know if you

1475
01:00:50,309 --> 01:00:48,640
if you followed david ike at all but um

1476
01:00:53,270 --> 01:00:50,319
he had a similar type of download

1477
01:00:54,309 --> 01:00:53,280
himself like an awakening didn't he

1478
01:00:58,630 --> 01:00:54,319
yes

1479
01:01:00,870 --> 01:00:58,640
he gets all his uh because he's

1480
01:01:03,349 --> 01:01:00,880
way turns books out um

1481
01:01:04,789 --> 01:01:03,359
every year he's it's amazing uh and he

1482
01:01:07,349 --> 01:01:04,799
says he couldn't do it without the

1483
01:01:10,630 --> 01:01:07,359
download that he got originally you know

1484
01:01:13,430 --> 01:01:10,640
it's uh he says it amazes him

1485
01:01:15,030 --> 01:01:13,440
where his information comes from

1486
01:01:17,589 --> 01:01:15,040
yes you know and the way he can sort of

1487
01:01:19,750 --> 01:01:17,599
stand there and talk for like 10 hours

1488
01:01:22,309 --> 01:01:19,760
you know i know i mean he's very

1489
01:01:24,390 --> 01:01:22,319
phenomenal in that sense

1490
01:01:26,390 --> 01:01:24,400
uh but then you know he wants to change

1491
01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:26,400
the world doesn't he he wants a

1492
01:01:32,950 --> 01:01:28,400
different way of living he wants a

1493
01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:32,960
different way of uh people's politics

1494
01:01:38,309 --> 01:01:35,839
so uh yeah he's he's uh he's quite

1495
01:01:40,390 --> 01:01:38,319
something yeah they're interested i must

1496
01:01:42,549 --> 01:01:40,400
say have you got a title for your new

1497
01:01:44,150 --> 01:01:42,559
book that you're writing

1498
01:01:47,670 --> 01:01:44,160
yeah it's the secret history of

1499
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:47,680
stonehenge the secret secret okay

1500
01:01:51,910 --> 01:01:49,440
stonehenge but it's going to be about

1501
01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:51,920
other sites as well but the core of it

1502
01:01:57,750 --> 01:01:55,200
is about uh stonehenge and the elongated

1503
01:01:59,029 --> 01:01:57,760
uh skulled people that

1504
01:02:01,990 --> 01:01:59,039
were there

1505
01:02:03,990 --> 01:02:02,000
and how they used the monuments and what

1506
01:02:06,390 --> 01:02:04,000
particular stones were used for what

1507
01:02:08,870 --> 01:02:06,400
particular purpose and i also

1508
01:02:10,470 --> 01:02:08,880
i have reconstructed stonehenge because

1509
01:02:12,710 --> 01:02:10,480
i don't think the archaeologists have

1510
01:02:15,109 --> 01:02:12,720
got the correct model i think if you get

1511
01:02:17,190 --> 01:02:15,119
some of the long-lost stones then

1512
01:02:19,750 --> 01:02:17,200
stonehenge is not what we've been

1513
01:02:22,470 --> 01:02:19,760
spoon-fed that it looks like

1514
01:02:24,789 --> 01:02:22,480
so i offer a different uh look of

1515
01:02:27,910 --> 01:02:24,799
stonehenge and a different

1516
01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:27,920
purpose of stonehenge as well

1517
01:02:31,670 --> 01:02:29,440
so that's what i'm working on at the

1518
01:02:34,549 --> 01:02:31,680
moment and like i say should be out next

1519
01:02:37,910 --> 01:02:34,559
year really looking forward uh to

1520
01:02:40,150 --> 01:02:37,920
launching that book i i think it uh

1521
01:02:42,710 --> 01:02:40,160
i think it will be

1522
01:02:44,250 --> 01:02:42,720
very controversial all right okay well

1523
01:02:45,910 --> 01:02:44,260
she'll keep an eye out for that one

1524
01:02:47,910 --> 01:02:45,920
[Laughter]

1525
01:02:49,750 --> 01:02:47,920
but i will actually put i've got to like

1526
01:02:51,750 --> 01:02:49,760
a list of your books here uh i will

1527
01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:51,760
actually put a list on the paranormal

1528
01:02:55,190 --> 01:02:53,280
dimensions page

1529
01:02:56,630 --> 01:02:55,200
and uh so if that's interested in uh

1530
01:02:58,789 --> 01:02:56,640
following up on your books which are

1531
01:02:59,910 --> 01:02:58,799
very interesting i must say um obviously

1532
01:03:01,750 --> 01:02:59,920
especially if you're interested in

1533
01:03:03,190 --> 01:03:01,760
stonehenge and the west country in

1534
01:03:05,190 --> 01:03:03,200
general

1535
01:03:06,870 --> 01:03:05,200
um but it's been fantastic talking to

1536
01:03:08,470 --> 01:03:06,880
maria thank you so much for finding the

1537
01:03:10,150 --> 01:03:08,480
time to come on

1538
01:03:11,750 --> 01:03:10,160
oh you're welcome it's been really good

1539
01:03:14,069 --> 01:03:11,760
thanks for having me and perhaps when

1540
01:03:15,510 --> 01:03:14,079
your book comes out next year um i'll be

1541
01:03:17,270 --> 01:03:15,520
coming i'll probably get to the west

1542
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:17,280
country again next year and perhaps i'll

1543
01:03:21,829 --> 01:03:19,490
drop by and you can sign it for me

1544
01:03:23,910 --> 01:03:21,839
[Laughter]

1545
01:03:25,589 --> 01:03:23,920
certainly well but so good luck on in

1546
01:03:28,309 --> 01:03:25,599
your future adventures and everything

1547
01:03:32,069 --> 01:03:28,319
now you've got a website and also you've

1548
01:03:33,990 --> 01:03:32,079
got avery experience dot co dot uk

1549
01:03:37,190 --> 01:03:34,000
um you've got an email address which is

1550
01:03:38,309 --> 01:03:37,200
maria wheatley at aol.com

1551
01:03:39,990 --> 01:03:38,319
um

1552
01:03:42,230 --> 01:03:40,000
i've got here

1553
01:03:44,150 --> 01:03:42,240
and esotericcollege.com

1554
01:03:45,910 --> 01:03:44,160
that's uh that's my teaching platform

1555
01:03:47,750 --> 01:03:45,920
easter territory

1556
01:03:50,230 --> 01:03:47,760
right okay so if anyone wants to get in

1557
01:03:51,589 --> 01:03:50,240
touch with maria and um i'll put some

1558
01:03:53,910 --> 01:03:51,599
links on the program with directions

1559
01:03:55,510 --> 01:03:53,920
page as i said and just be great talking

1560
01:03:57,109 --> 01:03:55,520
to you maria thank you

1561
01:03:59,109 --> 01:03:57,119
oh you're welcome thank you very much

1562
01:04:01,990 --> 01:03:59,119
david have a good evening thank you

1563
01:04:03,829 --> 01:04:02,000
thank you bria bye-bye thank you bye-bye

1564
01:04:06,150 --> 01:04:03,839
and there we are another wonderful guest

1565
01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:06,160
maria wheatley thank you again maria

1566
01:04:09,270 --> 01:04:07,200
well you've been listed at the

1567
01:04:11,589 --> 01:04:09,280
paranormal dimensions on the paranormal

1568
01:04:13,109 --> 01:04:11,599
uk radio network i'm david young thank

1569
01:04:15,510 --> 01:04:13,119
you for listening and i hope you'll join

1570
01:04:18,309 --> 01:04:15,520
me again next week thank you bye-bye

1571
01:04:19,430 --> 01:04:18,319
it's great i mean to be honest uh david

1572
01:04:23,109 --> 01:04:19,440
it's

1573
01:04:25,349 --> 01:04:23,119
over the past couple of years and then

1574
01:04:27,270 --> 01:04:25,359
you know obviously and the stuff that

1575
01:04:29,109 --> 01:04:27,280
we're both into on from the conspiracy

1576
01:04:30,630 --> 01:04:29,119
side of things as well it's um

1577
01:04:33,270 --> 01:04:30,640
you were one of the first one of the

1578
01:04:35,349 --> 01:04:33,280
first um english based shall we say

1579
01:04:37,510 --> 01:04:35,359
podcasts that i really

1580
01:04:40,230 --> 01:04:37,520
kind of started listening to on a

1581
01:04:42,390 --> 01:04:40,240
on a religious basis really

1582
01:04:44,630 --> 01:04:42,400
to say paranormal dimensions is as

1583
01:04:46,710 --> 01:04:44,640
bright and powerful as our celestial

1584
01:04:48,870 --> 01:04:46,720
star the south and although it's

1585
01:04:51,829 --> 01:04:48,880
expending thousands of pounds of energy

1586
01:04:54,490 --> 01:04:51,839
every minute of the day have no fear

1587
01:05:00,120 --> 01:04:54,500
there's plenty left

1588
01:05:00,130 --> 01:05:33,670
[Music]

1589
01:05:44,100 --> 01:05:36,570
do

1590
01:05:44,110 --> 01:05:50,150
[Music]

1591
01:05:54,710 --> 01:05:52,230
paranormal dimensions is a regular